Hi folks
Previously I wouldn’t have thought twice about promoting anything by Mike Filsaime.
It was his carbon copy videos that taught me html, the butterfly manuscript helped me learn the whole concept of the “One Time Offer”, and his Butterfly Marketing Script powers my ListBanditExpert website. His new product is a condensed version of the “7 Figure Workshop” that people (including me) paid $777 in July last year, so I know that what you’re getting will be top quality information.
The reason I’m not sure about promoting is because although it’s free you will have to enter your credit card details to pay for the p&p. Now recently he’s been giving away some of his other products in a similar way, but when you read the small print it says you’re also joining his paid newsletter and you will get billed $24.95 after 7 days, and every month you remain a member of the newsletter.
To me this is pretty sneaky and part of a growing trend where more and more of the big names are trying to people into forced continuity programmes. To me the idea is a bit like the porn industry where you get the instant gratification for free, and then rely on you forgetting to cancel the billing.
Also I’m sure that the site will have a whole host of upsells & downsells, and you will probably get the chance to buy the digital download of the Butterfly Marketing Script for a lot less than $1500 - brilliant if you want to launch your own site in the near future.
So please post a comment to let me know your opion on this matter.
Andrew
Edited on 5th June
The site is now live, I won’t be promoting directly, but I can confirm that Mike has been totally upfront about adding you to his monthly newsletter, so if you take up his offer but don’t want to pay the monthly fee for the newsletter then make a note of the number on the order page so you just pay the S&H.
Here’s Bob Jenkin’s link, he’s giving you extra material for going through his link
==> http://www.FreeMikeFilsaime.com
Thanks for all the comments, and in future please give Mike the respect that he deserves, it was a bit unfair of me to make comments on something that I hadn’t personally seen.
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June 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Any marketer big or small using sneaky tactics like that does not deserve to have any product promoted. things like this totally destroy trust.
John
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Hi there,
as you say, now more than ever, tons of people seem to be promoting Mike Filsaime’s material. It’s gotta be good stuff
My personal opinion about this is that if you can make an “additional dollar” on it, let yourself go and send us the link. You’re effort to make more is just as good as anybody else’s.
If it’s just a matter of giving a hi5 to this new launch, don’t worry about it, I can garantee you that your inbox will suddenly be just as filled as mine with links to it.
If you think you may have viewers who “may not” receive this from elsewhere, why not simply add a discrete link at the end of your sendings offering it. ie : click here for more infos on Mike Filsaime’s latest launch.
merlinregis
June 3rd, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I agree with you Andrew. Personally I consider this manner of selling to be very underhanded. I also purchased Mike’s BM in Jan. 2006. I can’t say enough good things about Mike or his products; however the trend of using fine print and delayed billing on newsletters and membership sites is nothing more than a way to pull money out of peoples wallets.
The bottom line is that they know, and are counting on a bunch of folks that will forget to decline the offer in time…once the money has been paid you will have a tough time getting a refund because they will tell you that it was right there in black and white, and you agreed to the terms.
I recently went through this with another so called Guru that offered a free product. He claimed that somewhere during the signup for the free product there was a statement that I would be billed $97 (recurring) in 30 days for a membership site. Trust me I would never have signed up for such a thing.
One day I noticed that $97 had been pulled from my PayPal account. The battled ensued and I finally got the money back.
The worst part of my ordeal was that this guy actually used my PayPal email address that was entered into the ‘Affiliate’ information portion of the sign-up page. This is not Internet Marketing….It’s Criminal!
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Interesting view Andrew.
When you see the order process it is as far from sneaky as a marketer can be.
The disclosure is crystal clear and there should be zero confusion to anyone who takes advantage of this amazing offer that they will have a choice to either stay on the monthly newsletter, or simply cancel their subscription and walk away with their free report after simply paying for the S&H.
Oh, and they also will receive a copy of The Butterfly Marketing Manuscript (which still sells all day long at $97), PLUS copies of the process maps from The 7 Figure Code…which people paid $5,000 to attend live and $497 for the home study course during launch week, and now $1,297 every month for the same course.
We have chosen to launch this in the most responsible and ethical manner as possible and you will see that there is zero “sneakiness” in this process, while producing extreme value for those who choose to take advantage of any step in the process.
Bottom line revolves around value. If you call that incredible value sneaky, that is your choice. I call it an irresistible offer…which by the way is the holy grail of marketing and every business owner who knows anything about marketing strives for.
Make Today Great!
Tom Beal
PS - And yes, I am VP of Marketing for MikeFilsaime.com, and co-creator of The 7 Figure Code, The 7 Figure Zone…plus I am extremely proud to deliver all of this value to the smart marketers who choose to take advantage of it. That is a choice you and only you can make when you see the offer and compare the pros and cons of moving forward or not. Either way, I wish you the best of success.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Hello Andrew and all of you
I am dead negative on this. Like it was said in an eariler post,..we will be getting dozens of emails
from others. And ya know what, I will be unsurscribing
to all of them , I don’t care who they are. This new
way of marketing has got to stop. Their just about saying
..hey we don’t care about you, we all make great money now,so now where just going to be like the other sleezy marketers out there and screw ya.
I’ve had it with all the sleeze bags. I have been going through all my emails and cleaning out a lot of them for the past week, and unsubscribing to all of them. It’s funny this subject is just being brought up now, as I’ve noticed the same thing too.
Sorry to carry on like this everyone, but it just hits my nerves right now. It’s hard enough to get going in this business as it is, without ##IT like that.
David …(BostonDave)
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Hi Andrew,
I have followed Mike for YEARS on the internet!
I must admit I DO NOT like those sneaky tactics, I’ve been sucked on by those many times. To find out how I got signed up for something in this way makes me never buy from those marketers ever again!
Cody Moya is a good example of getting things for free then later finding out that is exactly what he does. $Monthly fee programs I don’t even want to be in.
I would tell you NOT to promote this. You are still one of the most honest and upfront marketers I know.
Just the fact that you let us know you are uncomfortable about this should tell you something.
Sincerely,
Barbara
June 4th, 2008 at 12:55 am
I have gotton burned by fine print like that in the past to where now I won’t participate in offers like that anymore. I don’t respect marketers that have to use those tactics to get my money.
June 4th, 2008 at 1:26 am
Hi Andrew,
By keeping us (your subscribers) well informed on the products that you are thinking about promoting and asking for our opinion shows how very trustworthy and ethical you are and your concern for the person(s) you are promoting the product to.
I believe you are right when saying that this is a sneaky tactic as most people do not read the small print and many people just skim through a sales letter or whatever else they are reading.
So my answer to you is to only promote if there is a way to make sure everyone knows that they will have a monetary obligation other than the product being promoted.
Thanks for giving us the opportunity to give you our opinion.
Andrea J.
June 4th, 2008 at 2:10 am
Hi Andrew,
I’ve been working the “incentivized freebie” sites for a couple of years now, and this is one of the things that puts people off from being a referral. Having to read the ToS or T&C with a magnifying glass to make sure you’re not signing yourself away when doing an offer.
It’s very disappointing to see any internet marketer doing this, but really, from someone of Mike’s stature,it’s simply mind-boggling. Why would he need to do anything like this? He has always been upfront about what things cost and what you’ll get, unlike some other well known markters who shall remain nameless at this time, but one in particualr whose initials are CM.
I belong to many of Mike’s programs and sites and now I have to rethink that. I knew this “free launch” was gonna have strings, but this does not bode well.
June 4th, 2008 at 3:11 am
i wouldn’t recomend this crook’s info to anyone.. He, & Gary Ambrose,& Keith Wellman,recomend their so called programs to anyone.. I got suckered in to upgrading to gold which cost mea $197.00 fee.. when i tried to get the money taken off my credit card, i got the answer that i received all the info to make money, but never got anything out of it… I even sent the dvd’s back unplayed but they would not hear to it for refunding the money , so i’m stuck with paying for something i did not benefit from..thats my opinion of this bunch, they are nothing but liars, & theives..
June 4th, 2008 at 3:58 am
Just download Mike Filsaime’s monthly MarketingProductReview Newsletter and check out the new products being put out each week. Based on what I know of this market, I’d say more than the half the products on this list are crap.
Simple ideas are being tossed out at over-inflated prices. And many of these ideas are utter wastes of time and energy. (I’m looking at you Gurus who are currently pitching Web 2.0 marketing strategies to newbies.)
The victims are the 70% of people in this market who classify themselves as newbies. They are forced to gravitate from flash-in-the-pan idea to over-hyped trend to the “get rich quick scheme” of the day.
June 4th, 2008 at 6:24 am
Dear Mr Stark,
We have read your comment about Mike Filsaime and his sneaky tactics. We agree with you they are sneaky tactics and should be avoided at all costs.
However, from what we have witnessed as new marketers these practices are the norm rather than the exception. In our short experience, we have joined many programs we thought were honorable and above board only later to find that the expectation was to tout oneself as an “expert” when no expertice was warranted. The OTO offers designed to create urgency in the buyer and the popups to drive people insane are a hindrance, underhanded and annoying. All this, in our opinion does not create a repeat customer base.
When the experts resort to bad mouthing and back stabbing each other, it does not bode well for the marketing profession. Though we appreciate the warning about Mike, shouldn’t you address this situation directly with Mike Filsaime? Maybe when the “gurus” start behaving more constuctively and honorably, the internet can become a safer and more profitable enviorment for everyone.
Sincerely,
Daniel & Cecilia Zwanzig
June 4th, 2008 at 7:55 am
Andrew and everyone. How can I be hung out to dry for something you have not seen yet.
Honestly, I think I deserve more benefit of the doubt here. I have a good reputation online and that is because I make sure to offer extreme value.
I will be RAISING the bar. And for anyone to call what I am doing sneaky/sleazy based on OTHER people’s poor promotions in the past is silly when you have not even seen the site.
It does not go live for 1 more day.
So before you RUSH to judgment, and accuse me of guilt before even seeing how upfront my process is, please allow me to explain.
(Also, you paid $497 on 7/7/7 not $777 and my magazine
is $29.95 not $24.95)
This product I am giving away for free was to be sold for $29. I am printing it and sending it to you spiral bound.
The 18 Full color process map blue prints were done based on every DVD and are blueprints of my business. I was going to sell as an upsell for $197. YOU GET THAT FREE too.
And for the first 10 days of my launch, I am giving the manuscript for free.
So that is $600 I am giving you for free. All I ask is that you pay the s&h.
Now - I also send you a FREE complimentary copy of my 16 page FULL COLOR magazine written by me and 6 members of my staff full of good stuff to help you improve your business.
You all said my stuff is good, so you might think I will over deliver here too?
I would need you on my newsletter for 10 FULL MONTHS to make the amount I would make it I sold it for $297 upfront. So it sounds like a good deal to me.
UNLIKE ANYONE that has done this before, I CLEARLY stated in in SAME SIZE FONT, in BOLD, and in RED COLOR above the order button.
I also give you my phone number to call, which you can do 1 minute after you order and get all the reports, process maps, and comp newsletter all for free, and never be billed again.
You call and get a REAL HUMAN and we remove you from the billing.
We are not sneaky. We want to give you something for you money and DO NOT want you to pay for something that you do not want. You are not billed and have 30 days to tell us no.
Nothing sneaky.
Our site has a number and hep desk link on all pages.
The magazine also has our number printed to call our office, speak to a human, and cancel anytime with ZERO hassle.
So please, until you see how I do this with class, and RAISE the bar to show other marketers how t do continuity ethically, please do not accuse me without even seeing my process, and do not LUMP me in with those people from the past… I am not them. You have not seen my process.
I can promise you this. The value you get for free AND the magazine if you wish to stay on is great stuff.
If you do not want the report shipped to you, do not ask for it.
If you want it, and do not want the Magazine, get your free stuff shipped to you, pay the s&h, get your free magazine, call us, or call our toll free number at 1-888-DOT-0-COM and speak to a human during business hours, or leave a message after hours, and you will never be billed.
We are going OVER AND ABOVE full disclosure and want to provide great value.
We will raise the bar.
We will make all marketers proud and set a example for continuity programs in the future.
Andrew, I am happy you like my products. I am sure when you see our process, you will see it done in a way that everyone gets good value and there is nothing sneaky at all.
To others, if you do not want it shipped or see it as a hassle, then simply leave the limited copies for someone else.
To commit to unsubscribing to lists that promote something you have not even seen yet… That is just silly.
You get free access to information that 100 people paid $5000 for. I paid $25,000 to have this report written. Plus the process maps and the free manuscript… You get it and only pay shipping. And for that, you want to unsubscribe???
My friend… time to get out of marketing if you do not see value in that.
Thanks for letting my reply. I hope you enjoy the report.
Mike Filsaime
June 4th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Hello Andrew,
No I don’t think you should promote Mike Filsaime this time. It seems that he has lost his Pride and doesn’t care if he cheats his Customers.
It’s hard to believe that Mike F. would stoop that low. I have known him a long time on the Internet and I have never seen him do something that underhanded. I am really sorry that he has done that.
Sincerly, Lucille Crystal
June 4th, 2008 at 10:39 am
The difference is all in whether it’s clearly labelled or not…
There is nothing wrong with a FC program - if people know they are getting into one.
It when the small print is so small that you don’t know until you wonder where the cash in your paypal went….lol
FC is standard throughout a lot of industries (not just porn as some have mentioned), And no-one offline have a problem with it …
Be it DVD rentals, or Readers Digest…. but bring it online and everyone shouts and complains.
The lesson is simple — Be upfront and open.
If there is a monthly bil attached - let people know and they can make their own minds up as to whether to try it or not.
That said - if you decide to promote it - you’ll probably find the big names adding a heap of bonuses… as they will all want a piece of those monthly recurring sales!!!
Best Regards
Randy
http://www.SalesLetterABC.com
June 4th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Wow, I’m really surprised at how many of you really read into this deeper than you should have.
Mike isn’t doing anything underhanded. In fact I think he’s delivering MORE fro $8 than any offer I’ve seen in years.
If you’re running your own business online 1 nugget from the BFM Manuscript can easily DOUBLE your income by implementing it.
It’s sad to see so many people jaded by brilliant marketing.
Warm Regards,
Jon D. Atwood
http://JonAtwood.com
http://twitter.com/jonatwood
MSN & GoogleTalk: jdatwood@gmail.com
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June 4th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Wow..
I have just finished reading all the posts so far and I would have to say that there are people that understand this forced continuity thing very well.
There seems to be some people that believe it to be the fruit from the poison tree, and some believe it to be what marketing is all about.
I have always believed that we are responsible and have to take responsibility for our own actions!
You will always find people that will take advantage of their skills of persuasion and take you for a ride for as long as they can, just to make a quick buck. There are people that do this on a daily basis. They know that there is a sucker born every second online and they openly exploit them.
I just finished reading an article a couple months ago that mentions how Forced Continuity can help a marketer online and off bring in a steady monthly income. It also outlined that when we use Forced Continuity that it is better to be upfront and to mention what our intentions are at least 5 times through out the process.
From what I have read from Mikes post he is going way over what a responsible marketer is entitled to Volunteer to his customers. Bravo!! And OMG… all this before his product is even released!!
That is the difference between a Rip Off Artist and an ethical online marketer.
One last thing before I wrap this up.
We as a purchasing public are responsible for our actions and if we decide that we are going to jump on board and purchase everything without reading what we are getting then we are equally to fault if there is any fault to be placed.
I have been caught purchasing products and services online without reading the whole sales message, the times I have done this is when I have a purchasing relationship with the marketer in question. I have read every word of some sales letters that took 2-3 hours to read :0) and when that happens it is usually from a marketer that I am not familiar with.
I know, I know, some of these sales letters that we see can make our eyes glaze over, but people including you should be reading these to find out what it is that you are buying.
So, to sum up … We have to read what we are getting ourselves into. If I can give my personal experience on display here: The products that I have purchased from Mike, his support and desire to treat everyone as an individual is what I will remember him for! Have a good launch Mike.
Warm Regards,
Nick Sanders
http://www.listbanditsecret.com
June 5th, 2008 at 12:31 am
great thoughts
June 5th, 2008 at 12:55 am
Hi Andrew,
Obviously Mike’s comments speak for themselves, but let me share a few of my thoughts to help you and your readers know more of this particular product and the truth of how Mike treats his customers.
You and I go way back and you know my integrity is at the highest level.
I was at the 2007 Figure Workshop, and yes, I did pay $5000. I did not pay for the DVDs because they were included in the $5000. They are on my shelf as we speak.
This seminar was a 95% pitch free event, so unlike other seminars you get the DVDs on, you aren’t going to see sales messages in place of training. (Unfortunately that was not the case for one of the sessions on taxes… but it’s easily overlooked).
As for the issue with the launch of the 7 Figure Secrets I’ve seen the process Mike has in place. He walked us through it on a conference call.
I’ve also read an advanced copy of the book, and it’s quite comprehensive and true to the event. It’s difficult to take 4 days of content and stuff it into a logically sequential 84 page book. That’s why they paid someone $25,000 to do it and other than a few spelling mistakes it’s quite good.
As for the concern about free month of a service turning into a continuity program…
Many marketers do forced continuity and hide the program in one of 7 bonuses, make the text hard to find for skimmers, and some even put the details BELOW the order button.
This is not what Mike is doing. It’s very obvious, above the button, in red, bold all that.
As for the upsells you are expecting, you will not be disappointed. Yes Mike is a master at the one time offer; in fact he popularized it like no one else on the planet.
Every single time I’ve ever seen Mike do a One Time Offer it has these characteristics:
1) The scarcity is obvious
2) The technology truly keeps someone from coming back to the same page unless they do stuff to their browser or know other “tricks”
3) You’ll find at least 5 spelling mistakes on the pages (as a former teacher it’s just one of those things I see)
4) Most Important: he always overdelivers on what he gives for the prices he charges. You can see his products selling on Clickbank and Paydotcom for the prices he quotes. His discounts are genuine and truly remarkable and irresistible offers.
The real trouble some people will have is getting so much stuff they won’t wind up using it all. But speaking from experience, and owning 85% of Mike’s product line, I can say that each piece is typically worth 5 times what is asked for it.
For example, I personally paid $1000 for the Butterfly Marketing course when it first came out in early 2006. I’ve since created about 20 butterfly sites and every single one has made at least $1000 for me, many over $50,000. Better still, his script allowed me to go from a list of 0 to over 25,000 where it is today. And I’ve been able to pay commissions to a lot of affiliates because of how the script keeps track of sales made.
I agree with those that have already written - what Mike has put out in the past has been fantastic. So why would anyone expect him to stoop to sneaky tactics? What purpose would it serve him? Why would he want to risk his million-dollar empire in an age of Web 2.0 when reputations can be sunk in a matter of hours?
And if you think forced continuity is a sneaky tactic, then do you also boycott Proactiv, the History Book Club, BMG, Columbia House, and all those other “real companies” that give you a bunch of stuff for $1 or whatever and then send you more stuff later?
Another point I’d make is that the continual membership that Mike is giving here is an actual physical magazine sent to people’s houses. If you “forget” that you are paying monthly for a membership, you are reminded every month when it shows up in your mailbox. The sneaky continuity programs people are talking about are usually digital ones with no real reminder of content.
I know this is a bit of a rant, and I’m obviously on Mike’s side here, but that’s because I know him personally, have been mentored by him for over 2 years, have gone on vacation with him, and know many of the people in his office who will be there when you call to cancel or ask what else have you got for me to learn from. I even have the same support team working for me and know how reliable they are to answer customer issues and give refunds promptly.
If you can look past the New York accents :), they’re a great group of people who are just like you and me - wanting to do well, trying to help people find success and all forms of wealth in their lives.
My recommendation for anyone is to watch what Mike is doing and model it. That’s worked for me very well over the last 2 years (5 figures a month, active and loyal subscribers, less than 2% refund rate, etc.).
And if you ever want to promote something that you have an issue with some part of it, then tell your readers what’s good and what’s questionable. Let them decide with the facts in front of them.
One last point. Obviously, I am promoting Mike’s book and I hope people reading will pick it up from me or someone else. Mike has given his JVs a way for us to include a bonus offer directly on the sales page and in the downloads area. This is the first time I’ve ever seen a product owner put a JV bonus on the actual sales page for their specific promotion, AND deliver it inside the members area with complete flexibility. I’m not talking about a link to go to another squeeze page, but the direct download links.
Because of what I think about Mike’s book and what he is giving away (the butterfly manuscript, the process maps, and the 85 page book), and the opportunity for deep discounts on his other products in the “upsells”, I am giving away my very best, most comprehensive training course that I sell for $297.
I can do that because I know Mike is the real deal.
Bob Jenkins
p.s. Until Andrew decides to promote and give you a link, feel free to get my training course for free as a bonus at http://FreeMikeFilsaime.com, and decide for yourself. I have also reviewed the book more on my blog (click my name above this post).
June 5th, 2008 at 5:43 am
Mr. Filsaime, thanks for replying with your side of this issue.
As I have not yet seen the 7 Figure page yet, (I don’t think anyone outside of your team has) I guess we’ll all have to reserve judgement on that end. That said, I doubt seriously that Andrew would “make up” this issue, as he says he has seen it with your products in the past. I’m sure that you can understand and appreciate our concern.
As I stated in my first post, everything that I’ve seen from you so far has been straight forward and upfront regarding all costs. So it becomes very concerning when someone else I respect (Mr. Stark) says he sees something like this happening.
If this is not the case, then none of us have anything to worry about.
My only concern then becomes paying $29.95 monthly for a single 16 page newsletter delivered once a month. That is a bit steep for a single newsletter, despite any claims made before hand of “over-delivering”. As you are well aware, there are many, many membership sites that give plenty of information, and access to top people that charge the same rate. Truly, it would have to be something really special for me to continue past the trial period.
But, I’ll reserve judgement on that as well. I like 95% of your products and services, so indeed I’ll give this one a chance as well.
See you at the site tomorrow at 2PM EST.
Sincerely,
Ross “The Pit Boss”
http://www.gamblerman.com
June 5th, 2008 at 8:52 am
The solution to the “should I promote?” question is fairly easy - simply explain to your readers how the offer works when you promote it.
Based on what I’ve seen, the reference to the newsletter is very clear, but if you’re still concerned, then refer to it in your affiliate pitch.
My decision to promote this was easy to come to once I considered that when this offer is released, I’ll be one of the first in line.
If the newsletter is good, I’ll keep the subscription going. If it isn’t, then I won’t.
I’m sure we’re all adult enough to figure that out. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that even if the forced continuity wasn’t there, the same people that are complaining now would have, instead, whinged about having to pay shipping and handling.
Some folks will just never be satisfied.
I wrote an in-depth article on the subject of forced continuity if anyone wants to explore this subject in more detail.
http://www.thelucidblog.com/forced-continuity-good-or-evil/
June 6th, 2008 at 3:58 am
Have read the pros and cons on this page and I’m just curious as to why a well known marketer would open himself up to finger pointing. Why not err on the conservative side, so there is no room for “talk”.
A FC program is not the issue. But it should have been mentioned on the sales page. Once people click to get their FREE report, they’ll skim that next page (if they read it at all).
All I’m saying is, if the value is there (which I am sure it is), why not state the terms on the first page? Is the additonal buzz getting more eyeballs to the website? Why not make sure the offer is squeaky clean?
June 6th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
In practice, I think people who skim rather than read are more likely to pay attention to text on the order form than on the sales page.
The impatient customers are most likely to pay attention at the point where they are asked for their credit cards.
Personally Sue, I would have put it on the sales page as well, but that’s just me.
It’s probably a conversion issue, since persuading someone to take any action, no matter how small (even a single click) moves them into consistency territory and increases the likelihood that the next action will be taken.
It’s basically a trigger. Some people will be put off by the idea of a subscription, but if they’ve already taken one action, then resistance is lowered slightly. Across a large volume of traffic, the difference is measureable.
And if you’re wondering why Mike isn’t erring on the conservative side, I’m guessing it’s because that’s not how he built an eight figure business.
Virtually everything Mike has ever done has been criticised by a vocal minority. Often, 12 months later, those same techniques have become the norm. Mike could volunteer at a soup kitchen and he’d probably still get criticised by some.
Although knowing Mike, he’d probably find a way to fit an OTO in the bread roll J/K
I remember Mike back when he launched Don’t Touch My Ads - people who didn’t understand the program slammed him then. Did he care? I doubt it, since his OTO was converting like crazy.
June 12th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Like BostonDave I’m fed up with the slick tricks being employed by people that I used to respect and listen to. Also, I fed up with being pounded by dozens of people everytime a new “Launch” of the lattest and greates comes along.
I’m taking extra time to see with ezines are providing value as well as offering something for sale. Nothing against the selling, all of us have to earn a dollar, but about 50 ezines I’ve already canceled were sending nothing except offer after offer.
Andrew, yours is one of the few that I believe to be a keeper.