Avoid AutoTrafficAvalanch And Those Who Promote It
At the time of writing this post AutoTrafficAvalanch is in the #1 position on the clickbank marketplace for “e-business & e-marketing” with a gravity of 1325 which means it is selling like crazy, and almost all of the “big-hitters” who I subscribe to have promoted it.
Now the site has such a great hook, generate floods of traffic in 13 clicks or less, and enjoy hundred dollars on autopilot.
Normally I ignore these type of products, but that hook and the popularity meant I had to buy it, and as it’s a clickbank product I can buy it through my own link to check it out before deciding if I should promote it or not. After all the guy who’s on the video lives just up in the road in Stockport, if it’s a great product it could open some doors.
Pushy Sales Funnel
On taking the $39 product I went past 4 different up-sells. The sales pitch didn’t match the original page and they seemed to be pusing to buying proven campaigns that I would just copy and paste. It also talked about affiliate X, I tried they’re monthly site years ago – it was shit then, so several no-thank you’s later and alarm bells were starting to ring.
Not What I Expected, But Good Initial Content
Inside the members area Mike has gone, and we have Kieran who expalins where the traffic is going to be coming from.
The traffic comes from paid advertising on facebook and a dating site plenty of fish. Unlike google adwords they allow people to direct link to clickbank products and if you do some research you can drill deep and get super targeted advertising.
I’ve heard about this being like adwords before the mass affiliate marketer’s spoilt it and google had to slap everyone to stop every search showing up biz opps / weight loss ect.
Where’s the automatic 13 click software?
In module 3 we got round to the “software” and the product rapidly goes downhill. This is not software it’s a script that you install on your own website with the only automated part being aimed to deceive facebook staff.
These guy’s openly say that advertising the top selling products in the make money online section of clickbank break the terms and conditions for facebook advertising, but if you use this script it will show a different site to facebook staff during approval, and send traffic to banned affiliate links.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to be taking on facebook’s legal team!
This product starts off white hat, but quickly turns into a very black hat method, and anyone who’s promoted it you without the warning about the black-hat is just out to scew you out of cash.
Misleading Salespage
Not only is the actual product black hat it’s completely misleading.
Lie #1 - 234 copies – total BS
If you look at the marketplace it has a link to the affiliate page where the top affiliate will get a $5,000 bonus on top of 60%.
Let’s do some maths – $39 x 234 = $9,126 x 0.4 (owners share) = $3560 – even with a killer upsell the owner is going to loose money if he sticks to this number.
Lie #2 – the actual name!
Inside the members area nothing is automated. You have to manually go through clickbank picking out products and then write your own adverts. The software itself is not automated, to use it you have to manually put in the deceptive link and clickbank product and then manaully upload it. Calling the site TrafficAvalanche may have worked, but the word auto is laughable.
Lie #3 – newbie friendly
The salespage talks of needing no PPC or technical knowledge.
The whole course relies on you using the advertising service provided by facebook / plenty of fish – this is just PPC by a different name! Installing the script to deceive the facebook staff is pretty technical, it looked easy enough to me after watching the video, but was definately not mentioned on the salespage.
I’m angry
I find it disgusting that this type of product has been allowed into the clickbank marketplace and that so many people are being sold to by unscrupulous people who ignore terms and conditions so that they can make more money.
If you’ve fallen for the slick salesvideo full of lies and broken promises then please contact clickbank directly for your refund, the only way to stop this type of crap is vote with your feet, a high refund rate should tell clickbank that this sort of black hat marketing is not something we want.
To get a refund contact refunds@clickbank.com with your receipt number.
I do not have a website still trying to get started I bought this product hoping it would give me a kick start definately not – I got a refund
Well done for speaking up Andrew….
What a great review…keep talking like that and you’ll soon get a reputation for being honest and an expert.
Whats your recommendation for Andrew Foxes ( Foxy) “Nuclear Affiliate ”
Do we really need these hypey names..??
Malcolm.
After continuing with the sign up process on ATA I guess I was having a few reservations and a few heart palpitations. I became very sceptical when the deceptive details were unveiled. I have just put in my request for refund prior to receiving this info, and I am glad it supports my decision & disbelief in this program.
Hi folks
Good to see that you’re all putting in refund requests.
Malcolm, I haven’t actually read the “Nuclear Affiliate” but I did promote it on the basis that it was a hot seller, and I’ve been happy with Andrew’s products in the past.
Not the best reason for promoting a product, but it’s paid for the new carpet on my hall, stairs and landing!
It’s had a couple of refunds, but no more than any of the other clickbank products I’ve promoted, so if you see over the hype it’s probably worth a read, but use the exit pop-up discount!
Andrew
Well done Andrew many don’t speak up against hype sadly.
And many of us pay for something that will never get used because, of…probably our ignorance in most techie detail.
Luckily for me there was something I didn’t like about their whole page or patter that kept me from buying as do many others.
Maybe we should just trust that gut feelings and the guy’s whom don’t let us down.
How about Traffic Anarchy from Steven Lee Jones – more of the same crap from a proven con artist who, along with his partner in crime Andrew X, scammed 500-1000 people out of $1000 each for Niche Socializer last year?
And yet, they continue to operate as affiliates, and Clickbank and other gurus continue to look the other way, leaving me disgusted.
I knew ATA was at least partially BS, as no one would logically bother with an affiliate program for something with only 300 copies or less, which was also true of their Tweetomatic Profiteer, still selling 8-9 months later.
Regarding Nuclear Affiliate, I don’t know about Andrew Fox, but his (cousin? brother?) Chris Fox is apparently another bad apple due to CB Predators, which I just saw a horrible review about the other day. You ARE who you associate with, and I by now
am completely skeptical of ANYthing that’s
“pushbutton automatic”.
This industry is in need of serious housecleaning to remove the bad apples and stricter self-policing before it chokes on and drowns in its own hype.
One of the most honest review I ever read here in the world called internet. The net is already filled with outright scams and hypes out to get the pocketbooks of ALL people who are willing to be deceive.
Now, we have products dangled by a supposedly reputable company like Clickbank which offers nothing but shit — or almost!
I am not fond of buying nor promoting products on Clickbank all because I know that some of the stuffs there are just not worth the price tag they are putting into.
Bravo to you! For speaking the truth.
Thanks for the in depth information. I try to avoid situations that seem promising but might get you in trouble.
Thanks for the honest review. Too much hype and deceit is going to spoil the future of internet marketing if more people don’t stand up and say enough!
Interestingly, several I know including myself have written to CB about ATA, TOTAL silence from CB. Also, FB were onto it pretty quickly, so I don’t expect the “script” will do its job for long.
I haven’t bought this product, but I am glad that I read this review. I am trying to put something together myself, but that will take some time. The point is we need to help to put out some good stuff & grow into new and improved IM marketers, and stop passing shit a long.
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I bought this product on launch day, and returned it 24hrs later for all the reasons mentioned. I emailed a couple of Super Affiliates to ask why they were promoting a product that encouraged people to break Facebook’s terms and conditions, and one (Ew Ch) said Facebook approved it! (Must think we’re daft or something! LOL)
Hooray Andrew! Thank you for your honesty and good report on the way products online can be deceiving just to get money from people. My hat’s off to you and hope this will wake up some people to the way they’re money can be taken by some marketers that ruin it for us that make it the old fashioned way “we earn it”.
Great review Andrew! This is the first unbiased and real review posted by someone besides affiliates trying to make money from people with sales hype and no content or proof of how this software really works. It’s truly refreshing to find someone the speaks out and warns people to save their hard earned money and not purchase or get a refunds for this junk that will just make the product owner/affiliates richer and kill others hopes of make honest money online.
Thanks Andrew for your review. I´m trying to find a software legal to help me work in Internet and earn enough money to pay my bills. $600 a month could be good for me, but doing the things well, not with scams.
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Thanks for this review. I got curious about this product when someone left a spam comment on one of my sites. The information you provided was exactly what I was looking for–an explanation of what exactly the software does, and something you just don’t find on these landing pages. Oh, it tries to trick FB into taking ads they normally wouldn’t accept. Great info, and no thanks. I’ll bookmark this site and come back to it periodically. This type of site could be very helpful to a lot of people.
You are to be totally commended for this straight up review-warning. I have yet to see a review that tells you exactly what is wrong with a course or launch of this nature. I was interested in this course but honestly I am not willing to jeapordize my site by breaking TOS with Facebook and seriously there is zero automation in this course from what I saw as well. Thanks!
David
Hey Andrew,
We really need more of these traight talking reviews, I nearly got sucked into ATA but after the experience I had with Blogging Espionage I decided to give it a swerve and I am now glad I did.
To be honest I am always skeptical when a marketer is selling a product that claims to make you hundreds of thousands of dollars for just $79, it always seems to good to be true and as always – it is!
Thanks again for your review!
Steve Wilkins.
Well written and yes, it is a scam. I got a refund from them though. And they do mention that its not PPV, but it is. And deceiving facebook review team by cheap tactics might put us in trouble. A complete Rip off and a real shame after giving multiple promises.
Lol. The idiots spamming blogs with comments for this trash wrote me a nasty comment asking why I wasnt allowing their backlinks. Like an idiot I decided to go look at their website. How many old cheesy “you can’t leave this site no mater what” pop-ups scripts can one scammer use?
Anyone who gives these guys a penny deserves to loose thier cash, and at worst be de-indexed by Google.
Thanks a lot.. Im new to this and youve saved me a lot of time and hassle.. And Time is money and the hassle aint worth it..
Thanks for this review. You just saved me from being burnt!
I will be subscribing to your blog.
Livy.
Great Content and Research, Andrew!
I sent it out on Twitter so, hopefully,
people who bought but might yet have gotten
far enough into the course, can rush for a
Refund.
I’d like to suggest folks “search” their email
for promoters of this and unsubscribe them…seems like 100 clowns sent me an email promotion on this…not one of those sent an email that said “Oh Oh, I screwed up, this product actually sucks…if you got it through me, I will happily refund you!”
Guess they don’t want to screw up the next JV opp for the next crap product!
Tweet, Facebook…make sure you pass Andrew’s link along. These guys clearly deserve to go from #1 on Clickbank to 100% Refunded!
Thanks Andrew for “Stepping Up!”
I’ve tried sooooooo many of these “Work From Home” SCAMS………I’ve been fortunate to receive most of my money back…..ISN’T THERE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT IS LEGITIMATE AND WHY ARE ALL THESE SCAMS ALLOWED TO DRAW SO MANY PEOPLE IN without some safe guards……….
Hi Andrew, Verry SAD…I am starting a Affiliation with ATA…but after read this I want Open the eyes of my future customers…can i put and repleace this review in my product page? Of Course with referal link.
@Yoel I’ve approved your comment, but I don’t really understand how this review will make you any sales!
This review is one of the only based on facts, not the pre-written splog content that the owners wants people to find via google.
So yes please publish the content far and wide.
Andrew
Hello,
I just wanted to say thanks to the people who wrote here for all these valuable comments. I was just looking at this as a product I would possibly buy, but I’ll not now.
I want to mention something that may be helpful to people here. I’ve been marketing on the net for about a year now and for the first 10 months all I did was buy useless products and waste my money. Then I stumbled upon http://www.warriorforum.com/ I joined the free area and found it very useful, then I joined their ‘War Room’! It was the best $37 I ever spent and as a direct result of being there I am now earning a decent income. I’m not affiliated in any way with them, I just wanted to pass this on to people in case you had never heard of them.
All the best,
Andy
Hi,
I just want to say many thanks. I almost buy the product and found this review. Previously i’ve bought similar product named the fucking bullshit “Turbo Profit Sniper” without any research first, and i only need 1 day to refund it. That’s why when i found this product it tried to read some real review first.
Anyway, i’ve just started to learn internet marketing around 3 months and still can’t found the best method, do you have any recommendation?
Last, i found this : http://www.internetmarketingworldcup.com , it is a competition sponsored by clickbank, please spread the address to all those bullshit “GURUS” so we can observe are they really gurus?
Regards
Thanks for your review,
I really was tempted to purchase this product and you opened my eyes.
Keep your work,
I wish there could be more people like you around!
Best wishes
Fuhh..Thank you to you Andrew..i almost this junk. I;m glad i find your honest review.
Andrew,
Thanks for saving me money. As most of these do, it sounded fantastic, but now I know it is in the ad copy, not the software. Thanks again.
Mike
Thanks for the warning, I do not normally even look at these types of scams but the opening sales pitch was good so I did a little research. I think breaking the rules for big companies like Facebook is just stupid and you will end up getting internet blacklisted
Hi Andrew thanks for the review, I am glad you are top of the search engines for the review on this particular product, I think a lot of people now expect reviews to be another form of sales page.
I can’t understand how these products keep selling without ever telling the potential buyer what the product actually involves. These damn secret methods, that are never secrets really are damn cons, I once bought the same product twice under 2 different names because the seller was so secretive.
I guess it won’t be long now before the laws are passed for consumer protection to outlaw all this junk.
Any way thanks a lot Em
Thanks for the truthful review, saved me from throwing away some $$$